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Details of our process. 

Here we attempt to provide details about the entire process.  But, as you may have already picked up, we attempt to manage the goats in the way that best matches your vegetation and land goals.  This means there can be variables in the process that are challenging to describe and document generically.  

Learn more about the specific ways that FlockWorks functions and our processes. 

These are the steps to getting the FlockWorks Goats to work on your land and vegetation challenges. 

As always, this is a basic overview.  Feel free to dig deeper.  This site has dozens of pages for the purposes of getting you the information that you need. Contact us if you have any questions not answered on our website. 

Research
First Step

(You're in the middle of it now....)

Research and decide if goats may be right for you and your land managment goals.

There are dozens of pages of information on this site with lots of information from all perspectives to give you a very good idea if goats are a good way for you to go.  

Additionally, we have a separate, growing site that has the sole purpose of supporting people who want to manage goats like we do, either simply for their own land or to use there herd(s) to help others with their land issues.  Visit GoatWorks.us to learn even more! 

Step Two

You have two main courses of action that you can take once you decide that you are interested in having our goats start managing your vegetation: 

Filling out a request for a quote is the most common way of proceeding and usually is the fastest method to get things rolling.  There is a fair amount of information requested, but it's the same information we need to get a estimate to you no matter how you proceed. 

You can also contact us directly.  This method is typically preferred for the technically challenged or for those who have circumstances that the quote request form is not able to capture.  

Survey and Fencing
Step Three

Site survey, site prep and fence installation.

The next step is an initial site visit and site set-up. During this visit we discuss and reconfirm your goals and walk the perimeter of the area(s) with you to make sure we are on the same page knowing first hand what area(s) you want to have managed. If there are significant variables in the real-life survey and the information gathered from your quote request, satellite images, tax maps, etc. that we used for the estimate, we then modify the quote. If it changes, it almost always will go down from the virtual quote. From this time forward, your final cost will be at the quoted price or lower, unless you decide (if available) to extend the area beyond your original request or add optional services not previously discussed. Our quotes are simply a totaling of various components and you will have first hand visibility to the work of the goats and the ongoing invoice totaling as well.

In most areas we like to have the fence set up and live for at least two nights prior to the goats arriving on site. This is for several reasons, but the main one is to “train” local predators to the fence.

During the first visit we will also attempt to speak with neighbors of adjacent properties to set their expectations, explain the fence, answer questions and attempt to help in building community good-will.  We also leave a door hanger if no one is home and it has a QR code (and typed our URL) to this page, set up simply to inform neighbors what to expect and some basic rules of the goats and fence.  (And some goat facts and points of interest.)

Bring The Goats!
Step Four

Here comes the herd(s)!

Once the fence is ready and has been energized, we bring the goats. We basically always do this after dark or very early AM. Goats travel better out of the heat and are calmer in the dark. All evidence points to goats loving every part of their job and their life, with the possible exception of travel, so we try to minimize their negative experience.

The fence that we set up is always on and delivers a strong, but safe shock when contacted, keeping goats in and predators out. The current is very high voltage, but very low amps and feels a lot like an especially strong static electric shock.

The goats remain onsite until the project is complete. Depending on your management goals and site conditions, the goats may move once or twice into new, adjacent sections (paddocks), or even dozens of times over many weeks.

Land Management 
Quantifying Expectations

In order to provide you the service that you expect, this, in many ways, is the most important part of getting started with the goats in an efficient way!  Hopefully we can understand your expectations and have a chance to meet them.  If we aren't speaking the same language, the chances of success are much less. 

These are just the general categories for discussion and calculation purposes.  For the purposes of our new self quote, if you have a different goal than listed in one of these, simply choose the closest one and, if you decide to use the goats, we will discuss your plans and go over your specific goals.  

It's probably obvious, but these go from least to the most intense managment methods. So, in general, one (1) will have the largest fence sections (paddocks) areas and six (6) the smallest.  Same concept (but to a lesser degree) with the amount of time the goats are placed in a given section.  Keep in mind, we will almost never plan to have the goats in any given section longer than six (6) days.  

For an area where invasive species are just beginning to take hold.  Or perhaps a small percentage of some other undesirable plant, like poison ivy. 

When you want to utilize the goats to begin to manage invasive species.  Goats tend to prefer invasive to native plants.  With this option chosen AND a mix of native plants and invasives, we run the goats through the area fairly quickly.  The idea is that the goats are more likely to defoliate the invasive plants and less likely to defoliate the native plants. 

PLEASE NOTE: Goats are browsers!  They generally take a bite one one plant... perhaps another bite or two, and then often move on to the next plant.  All plants will be munched on by the goats, it's just more likely that their total energy will focus on invasives.  

Usually this land managment method calls for goats to be run through the target area quickly two to three times per year for the first year and once or twice per year afterwards.  The type of invasive plant matters here as well.  Some drop seeds that stay viable for years, even DECADES after the plant is gone.  By-the-wat, basically none of the seeds that the goats consume will be viable, and of course, any of the seed-making parts that they eat are not going to produce seeds.  

Keeping pasture/field/or lawn area clear of brush vegetation.  Almost always, the goats are run through once or twice per year. Goats prefer brush to grass. Brush struggles with being grazed/browsed. Grass thrives with being grazed. (as long as it's not grazed too low... which goats do not naturally do.)

This choice has the goats in rather large (propionate to the number of goats) sections (paddocks) and moving on with basically no time for the goats to begin to focus on any mature trees.

You want to utilize the goats to begin to manage an overgrown area and I'm looking the best, healthiest way to do that without chemicals, over time. The vegetation mix is not terribly important here. Often this option is chosen when someone has woods or forest and is looking to clear the understory while affecting desirable trees a little as possible.

This choice has the goats in medium sized (propionate to the number of goats) sections (paddocks) and moving on with little time for the goats to begin to focus on mature trees.

This is probably the most chosen option. We get a request to "clear" as much vegetation as reasonable while running the herd through with proportional sized sections (paddocks) and a normal pace. Basically, defoliate everything they can reach and eat naturally.

With this option chosen someone (us, you, landscape company, etc.) can come in and work much more easily and the brushy-type plants are put into a state of initial distress.   

Many people manage with this method the first year, and switch over to a less intensive method in following years. 

There is very little difference between this and option five. 

We *push* the goats a little bit harder than number four.  The sections are often a bit smaller. 

As always, we observe the effects.  We ask that you observe the goats working as well.  We adjust section (paddock) size and frequency of moves based on these observations.  

Basically, you'd like everything that's not a significant tree gone. 

NOTE: We typically turn these jobs down.  There is a place for this, but goats do not naturally eat especially low to the ground (usually not under 4" - 6") unless they are really "pushed" - given no other choice of what to eat.  And goats are not beaver, so we, or someone, has to work with the goats to cut brush remnants, stalks, stems, young trees, etc.  As we get busier, the extra optional services (all our cutting) are more and more difficult to accomplish.  This option is has a 99% chance of being turned down for any job outside of our normal service area, unless it is very, very small.... like 1/4 acre or less. 

The main reasons we often decline jobs with this land managment goal: 
1. It takes TONS more intensive managment!  Say for an acre of heavy brush (think, jungle like... Can't even see into the brush more than a few feet) the area would have to be divided into many, many sections... perhaps as many as eight or ten.  This is an enormous amount of more work, more wear to our electric net fencing and more cost to the landowner.  The same goal can be accomplished over time without so much pain, effort and gear wear. 
2. Typically this goal is better accomplished by a bulldozer.  At least if you're hoping to have it all done in one pass.    

IF you choose this option, understand unless we or someone else does the manual cutting afterwards (typically a few weeks afterwards, when the plants use up some of their energy try to re-foliate) then the option is not going to be nearly as effective. 

Mailing Address:

PO Box 207
Roxbury, PA 17251


Physical Address: 
11777 Forge Hill Road
Orrstown, PA 17244


Contact:

Email: info@FlockWorks.us 
Phone: (717) 417-8683
(You can also text us.) 

Links:
Site Map (90+% Rebuilt)
  • Hire Goats (Goat Rental Directory: Find other Goat Rental Companies.)
  • GoatWorks (Learn to manage your own goats similarly.) 
  • Historical FlockWorks Website

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